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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh man. Married to the same man for 20 years, and we still trip up over the goofiest things... forget about the big stuff.  I&#039;ve identified two key differences in how we communicate, though it hasn&#039;t helped a whole lot in practical application.

One: I (Virgo) need details and clarity. He (Pisces) deals in concepts. Very hard to pin down exactly what he wants. (And he assumes he&#039;s being condescending if he has to spell something out)

Two: I&#039;m an introvert. Words go through a series (many, many) filters before they get let out of the gate. If at all. Him: every little thing that pops into his head comes right out of his mouth. When he&#039;s thinking out loud, I sometimes make the mistake of acting on what sounds to me like requests or directives. So then it&#039;s either, why does everyone put so much stock in my words? OR I&#039;ve said this a million times, why don&#039;t you ever listen to me?

I know it comes to both of us being afraid to say what we mean .. I just don&#039;t, or neglect to ask for more clarity, and he dodges the bullet.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Gina&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.embodygrace.com/home/2009/6/3/18-ways-shiatsu-can-rock-your-world.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;18 Ways Shiatsu Can Rock Your World&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh man. Married to the same man for 20 years, and we still trip up over the goofiest things&#8230; forget about the big stuff.  I&#8217;ve identified two key differences in how we communicate, though it hasn&#8217;t helped a whole lot in practical application.</p>
<p>One: I (Virgo) need details and clarity. He (Pisces) deals in concepts. Very hard to pin down exactly what he wants. (And he assumes he&#8217;s being condescending if he has to spell something out)</p>
<p>Two: I&#8217;m an introvert. Words go through a series (many, many) filters before they get let out of the gate. If at all. Him: every little thing that pops into his head comes right out of his mouth. When he&#8217;s thinking out loud, I sometimes make the mistake of acting on what sounds to me like requests or directives. So then it&#8217;s either, why does everyone put so much stock in my words? OR I&#8217;ve said this a million times, why don&#8217;t you ever listen to me?</p>
<p>I know it comes to both of us being afraid to say what we mean .. I just don&#8217;t, or neglect to ask for more clarity, and he dodges the bullet.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Gina&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://www.embodygrace.com/home/2009/6/3/18-ways-shiatsu-can-rock-your-world.html" rel="nofollow">18 Ways Shiatsu Can Rock Your World</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Melissa Karnaze</title>
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		<dc:creator>Melissa Karnaze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 02:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I wouldn&#039;t go about the issue in the way the male friend did, because I have a different take on intimacy. 

As in, I wouldn&#039;t make conclusions about the relationship, based on assumptions about the other person. I can only speak for myself, and even then, I can only speak for what I believe I am capable of or what I feel comfortable with (which may or may not be &quot;true&quot;) -- when it comes to increasing intimacy. 

Any assumption about how capable another person is of increasing intimacy in the future is only speculation. And that&#039;s based on my view of intimacy, which is that it is intangible, unmeasurable, and ever infinite (by consent of the people involved in the relationship, it can always &quot;increase,&quot; &quot;grow deeper&quot;).

@Green, that&#039;s what I hear too. 

@Tanya, I agree that&#039;s a vague thing to say. Sounds like a way to avoid what he really wants to say about the relationship and/or his comfort-level with intimacy, as Green mentioned. If he were really clear about what he thought and felt, he would talk specifics instead of an open-to-interpreation word like intimacy.

Thanks for the thought-inspiring post. 

Makes me look back on my own miscommunications and remember how much pain resulted from *not* asking for clarity.

&lt;abbr&gt;&lt;em&gt;Melissa Karnaze&#8217;s last blog post..&lt;a href=&quot;http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mindfulconstruct/~3/r_y5L7UYvWg/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Human Weakness Bears Human Strength&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/abbr&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I wouldn&#8217;t go about the issue in the way the male friend did, because I have a different take on intimacy. </p>
<p>As in, I wouldn&#8217;t make conclusions about the relationship, based on assumptions about the other person. I can only speak for myself, and even then, I can only speak for what I believe I am capable of or what I feel comfortable with (which may or may not be &#8220;true&#8221;) &#8212; when it comes to increasing intimacy. </p>
<p>Any assumption about how capable another person is of increasing intimacy in the future is only speculation. And that&#8217;s based on my view of intimacy, which is that it is intangible, unmeasurable, and ever infinite (by consent of the people involved in the relationship, it can always &#8220;increase,&#8221; &#8220;grow deeper&#8221;).</p>
<p>@Green, that&#8217;s what I hear too. </p>
<p>@Tanya, I agree that&#8217;s a vague thing to say. Sounds like a way to avoid what he really wants to say about the relationship and/or his comfort-level with intimacy, as Green mentioned. If he were really clear about what he thought and felt, he would talk specifics instead of an open-to-interpreation word like intimacy.</p>
<p>Thanks for the thought-inspiring post. </p>
<p>Makes me look back on my own miscommunications and remember how much pain resulted from *not* asking for clarity.</p>
<p><abbr><em>Melissa Karnaze&#8217;s last blog post..<a href="http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/mindfulconstruct/~3/r_y5L7UYvWg/" rel="nofollow">Human Weakness Bears Human Strength</a></em></abbr></p>
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		<title>By: Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 04:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I personally hear (had to think for about 5-10 minutes to figure out how to word it right for non-me brains) &quot;Our relationship is as intimate as I feel comfortable being with anybody.&quot;

Weird, huh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally hear (had to think for about 5-10 minutes to figure out how to word it right for non-me brains) &#8220;Our relationship is as intimate as I feel comfortable being with anybody.&#8221;</p>
<p>Weird, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: Tanya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tanya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Jun 2009 22:38:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What would I do differently?
Well, what I would LIKE to do is either not say the ambiguous thing in the first place, or call out the ambiguity as quickly as possible.

What I ACTUALLY did in a similar situation was hear &quot;it hurts when you tell me that&quot; as &quot;let&#039;s not talk about this again&quot; and spend, like, MONTHS agonizingly not talking about something important and painful. What was actually meant was exactly what was said, but I added that &quot;let&#039;s not talk&quot; conclusion without checking with my partner, and I was wrong.

Since that incident, I&#039;ve been pretty good at asking my partner, &quot;I just heard you say [foo]; was that what you meant?&quot; I&#039;ve got a hit rate of less than 50%, so I&#039;m glad I ask!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What would I do differently?<br />
Well, what I would LIKE to do is either not say the ambiguous thing in the first place, or call out the ambiguity as quickly as possible.</p>
<p>What I ACTUALLY did in a similar situation was hear &#8220;it hurts when you tell me that&#8221; as &#8220;let&#8217;s not talk about this again&#8221; and spend, like, MONTHS agonizingly not talking about something important and painful. What was actually meant was exactly what was said, but I added that &#8220;let&#8217;s not talk&#8221; conclusion without checking with my partner, and I was wrong.</p>
<p>Since that incident, I&#8217;ve been pretty good at asking my partner, &#8220;I just heard you say [foo]; was that what you meant?&#8221; I&#8217;ve got a hit rate of less than 50%, so I&#8217;m glad I ask!</p>
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